INTJ
Born in, left at age 27
Left because I couldn't live the lie anymore just to save my relationship with my family in short: the religion is a joke, a lie, a cult and I had to get as far away from it as possible.
fortis et liber
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Is there a correlation between personality type and leaving the WT?...
by Tuesday inon facebook tonight there was a post asking to take a personality test, in posting the personality tests a trend started emerging that certain personality types seem to leave around the same time.. i came out as an intj which is introverted intuitive thinking judging.
which a good paragraph describing it was:.
intjs apply (often ruthlessly) the criterion "does it work?
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fortis et liber
Glad to hear your OK sizemik; that liquefaction sounds like real scary stuff !
~ fortis
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Wish I Would Have Left Earlier
by EmptyInside ini know everyone's situation is different.
and no matter what age one is when they finally say enough of the religion,it's difficult.. but,from what i have observed among my friends,it appears that those who left in their teens/early 20's fare a bit better.. my two close friends who were disfellowshipped in their teens/early twenties,seemed to do fairly well with the transition.
of course,i know they went through a great deal of pain to get where they are today.
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I can relate to all that you are feeling. I too was a born-in, left at age 27 and have many, many times wondered 'what if'? But, as the other posters have stated, it doesn't really do much productive good to dwell on it so, I too try my hardest to not get mired in the past but stay hopeful and positive about the future.
With hindsight (and the current knowledge and strength you posses) it's easy to berate ourselves for the things we could have done better like leaving sooner but, when you know better, you do better, right? Celebrate the life that we have now, relish every single day of freedom that we can enjoy, we are so much, much more fortunate than those we left behind.
~ Fortis
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College education pays
by hoser injust saw this article on cnn, will get back later to comment on it.. .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/opinion/06/09/aoun.college.benefits/index.html?hpt=hp_c2.
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"it does give you a fresh look on things"
"college may just open up a new world for you"
"And, being indentured as one of Jehovah's Witlesses is going to cost you a lot more than $200,000"
Exactly my point, WTWizard -- I couldn't agree more. College was a huge financial undertaking for me on the one hand but on the other, it totally blew my mind in terms of opening up the world to me and this, in light of being chained to the Borg for 27yrs, was h.u.g.e.
~ Fortis
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College education pays
by hoser injust saw this article on cnn, will get back later to comment on it.. .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/opinion/06/09/aoun.college.benefits/index.html?hpt=hp_c2.
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serenitynow: I gathered as much, that Sir82 thought the figure was high however; it was his flippant reasoning I found annoying.
I was hoping that by asking him to clarify his logic he might come up with a more accurate supposition for such an admittedly high student loan debt. Like for instance, going to an expensive school (or schools) and perhaps maybe getting more than one degree. For the record, both of these possibilities are true.
I simply wanted to join the discussion on what I thought was an interesting topic by the OP and felt strongly enough about two points, that I wanted to comment on them. Namely, the cost of an education can be ridiculously high especially, as you start out in your new career and secondly, especially in light of my J-Dub experience, I think it was worth it (or will be in the long run, as the case may be).
His comment implied that I had to be lying about my student loan amount and, although I wish I was, I am not.
~ Fortis
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College education pays
by hoser injust saw this article on cnn, will get back later to comment on it.. .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/opinion/06/09/aoun.college.benefits/index.html?hpt=hp_c2.
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Sir82: I'm not following you -- where do you get 20yrs to get my degree or living at the Ritz-Carlton from, how do you figure this?
~ Fortis
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Who Do You Think Are Overrated Singers Or Movie/TV Stars?
by minimus ini think patti labelle is too much of a screamer when she "sings".. i don't think jerry seinfeld is all that funny.. i'm just not into george clooney.
he's way overrated!.
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Katy Perry
Britney Spears -- she lip syncs all of her 'live' shows but, have you ever actually heard what she sounds like live? Check out this montage of her direct audio http://youtu.be/BFFrHuwEPGg
EDIT: My point being: if I go to a live show, I want to see a live performer not some auto tuned massaged poser or someone lip synching to their studio recordings. Britney isn't the only popular performer to do this, I just find it amazing that these faux-live shows are so popular, it's all a joke.
enjoy !
~ Fortis
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College education pays
by hoser injust saw this article on cnn, will get back later to comment on it.. .
http://www.cnn.com/2011/opinion/06/09/aoun.college.benefits/index.html?hpt=hp_c2.
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" The first years out of college can be difficult for some graduates, when their salaries are lower and their student loan debt is high. "
Boy, they got that right. I just graduated in December 2010 with approximately 180k in student loan debt; jobs in my filed start in the low 40's -- it sucks, big time.
But on the whole, especially in light of my life before (i.e. an indentured drone for the Borg) compared to life after, I began pursuing an education almost immediately, I have no regrets. For me, it really was important to do or work at something I believed in, something I was passionate about and hopefully, something that allows me to contribute to society in a meaningful way (as opposed to making drone converts).
~ Fortis
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Youtube Your Life
by prophecor insongs that reflect who you are, where you've been, and where you'd like to be.
leave a note as to why the song reflects your life.
art.
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Prophecor, you're the best -- thank you so much !! That song just really sums it all up for me and I thank you for including the lyrics as well.
~ Fortis
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Youtube Your Life
by prophecor insongs that reflect who you are, where you've been, and where you'd like to be.
leave a note as to why the song reflects your life.
art.
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NomadSoul, I do (listen to the music that is) most often in cases where I'm not familiar with the song -- if I know the song really well already then, I don't have to view it again to get the 'point' of their post.
~ Fortis